Dredmor Patch 1.0.10 RC9 Feedback Thread - I Believe in The Lever Fix

Btw, if you use Wild Magic, you will get all the burnt out wands you can handle... with some patience.

 

If its for a mod (presumably a skill) why not just have a skill that spawns wands with the max charges and a super high recharge, though for 1.0.10 you could add sacrificing a burnt wand for the new one, and you wont have any left.

 

FYI, the syntax for scaling is secondaryScale and primaryScale. Search the spellDB.xml for examples of these in the official spells.

 

*tries best to smile, tears rolling down cheeks*

 

Code them with the power of your mind.

This is always the answer.

 

drainMana still doesn't work... or perhaps i'm using it wrong.

 

http://pastebin.com/RpiaqegX

This is the spell you wanted to see.
Each spell effect deals scaling damage, but is part of a trigger effect.

None of the parts of this spell will scale with patch build rev2.

 

I'm very glad you got rid of "Zalgo Blast1" on Malleus Maleficarium and The King in Yellow. M.M. is now really neat. However, I'm not sure that Zalgo1 is a good new choice for The King in Yellow. I'm still killing myself with the resultant Corpse Blast. Tomes that make you kill yourself are only useful for ranged characters, and that makes me sad.

I was looking at the spawn list for the new Mushroom spell. It lists Tofu as a choice. Is this intentional? Tofu isn't a fungus. Since the effect already spawns Fairywodger, I don't see why you'd want it to spawn food now, anyway. Also, there are now two chances to spawn "Spores". One for amount=3 and one for 5. I commented out the rest of the fungus to see just what these two options would do. It spawns nothing. When I limited the list to just Spores and Tofu, it always spawns Tofu. I assume that items that don't exist get skipped from the spawn list. Did you intend these two entries to do something? I even tried changing them to "Mushroom Spores", but still nothing.

At any rate, it's OK. I changed it to spawn these items instead:


Now it's my favorite spell!

All joking aside, I'm also not entirely thrilled with the new mechanics for Mushrooms. I agree that it used to be really overpowered. For one, you could make limitless spores and turn them into lutefisk. You could also turn literally every corpse into a mushroom after making a ton of spores ahead of time. The dropping-an-item-on-a-corpse mechanic was also very awkward, so I'm glad that's gone.

However, now it takes 20 turns between turning corpses into fungus. That's harsh. I find myself killing a few guys, turning the first into a shroom, then wanting to hit space 20 times so I can do it again. It's not a combat spell, so having a long cooldown on it doesn't make it a tactical choice of when to use it like a cooldown does for melee spells, or teleports and such. All the cooldown serves to do is make me die of boredom and get carpal tunnel syndrome. Game mechanics where it's Man vs. Boredom as the limit for abusing the mechanic are not particularly good.

Mana and Health regen are another example of this mechanic. The only thing limiting me from healing these stats to full between clearing every room is that same boredom mechanic. I don't want to spend my time running back and forth to heal all my mana and health when I could be just playing the game. Thankfully, though, there are food and drink and a Digest button as a much more fun alternative. (Although in a pinch the run-around mechanic is still available.) There is no such alternative for the Mushroom Farmer spell. Well, I suppose I could drink a 20 turn beverage and hit Digest.

Nothing would really change if you made the cooldown on Mushroom Farmer something like 4 turns, like Corpse Drain has. In either case, 20 turns or 4, I could still turn every corpse into a mushroom, but at 4 I wouldn't wear out my space bar. The only real difference is, with 20 turns, there's the chance of a monster spawning nearby to interfere with my fungiculture, which is not that big of a deal. In fact, it's another body!

 

Get item, add effect you want, add effect of spawning the same item in your inventory.
You'll get an item you'll be able to use an infinite amount of times.

 

I can see that click-spam farming might make certain people hate themselves and/or hate you. However, this hasn't changed much. Now, instead of farming a bunch of spores every 32 turns as they explore, they can't farm the items at all. What used to be an occasional click to build up some spores and single click to get a mushroom is now 21 clicks to get a mushroom, if the player still felt the need to farm mushrooms. The same people who felt compelled to farm in the first place are still going to do it. They'll just hate you even more.

Have you considered changing the spell entirely? I like the flavor of turning corpses into mushrooms with a sprinkle of spores, but maybe that mechanic is the whole problem. Perhaps you could try making it an on-death proc that has an X% chance of spawning a mushroom 4 turns later. This must not destroy the corpse, or else that takes away the player's choice to use the corpse for exploding or draining. What would a fair % chance be? 10? 15?

So, rather than having the player perform an explicit action once in a while, the effect simply happens by itself once in a while, and they get a reasonably steady stream of mushrooms. This puts an upper limit on the number of mushrooms they can get. No longer can they turn every corpse into a mushroom by spending the time. Instead, they just keep exploring and the mushrooms appear on their own.

The flavor of the effect can still be the same. The description can say that you put spores on every corpse, but they only occasionally bear fruit.

 

Playing the Release Candidate 2. I'm noticing there's no longer a microstutter when the music changes. I can now walk in and out of a shop without the game lagging. Food no longer crashes the game, also.