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Stealing question - or "How Brax will haunt you from beyond the grave" *spoilers inside*

Discussion in 'Dungeons of Dredmor General' started by Shadowplay, May 14, 2012.

  1. Shadowplay

    Shadowplay Member

    So... I just tried stealing from brax using the "explode your way in from the back" feature. Or so I thought at least.

    I never did this before so I may have done something wrong.

    Basically, I blasted my way in from behind because I found a Star Addendum inside with +2:mana_regen:, +1 :trap_level: and +12 damage (and a few other, less important, stats) and while I had around 400mil I still didnt have the 1.2 billion it cost :p

    So anyway, I blasted my way in there from the back, entered the shop via said back, picked up my coveted Star Addendum and immidiately brax went to the entrance to block it. I went on my merry way out the back and he shouted THIEF! "oh well" I thought, went on to kill him in 2 hits and his guards in a hit each (this was at DL 13) and thought that would be it.

    It wasnt.

    Guards continued to spawn like mad and I thought that while I was in there anyway, I would just rip off the entire store for the money since it was a very big shop with very expensive stuff over all. They continued and continued. At one point they spawned to fast that they took up most of the screen.

    I escaped in the end using a teleport skill and decided to go sell my loot. It didnt matter too much thus far because naturally the guards would only spawn near the shop right? Wrong! They continued to spawn all over the place and when I reached another shop on the same level I realised that THAT version of brax was also hostile. I thought that the other braxes on the same level may have been what spawned the guards so I killed him as well, went on to the last shop and killed that brax as well.

    Guards still kept spawning.

    Eventually I escaped to the next DL, leaving around 700 brax guards roaming the level.

    Now I didnt explore the map in full so there might have been a 4th shop somewhere but in my 180 hours playtime I have never experienced more than 3 shops on a level before so I doubt it. What happened here? Why did brax guard stuff in the first place, why did the other shop keepers take offense as well and why did the guards keep spawning even after I killed all the braxes? I am 100% positive that they kept respawning because I saw it happen several times when I reached new rooms without anyone inside.

    Edit: Oh and Im running the staple version and mods are Internal Dredmoration, RR and Faxpax
     
  2. mining

    mining Member

    You need to not be standing in the store for this to work :)
     
  3. Shadowplay

    Shadowplay Member

    ah so I can only steal stuff near the edge of his shop this way? Would explain a lot :p Thanks

    I fixed the horrible monster spawning btw. I killed all the braxes, left the level and returned and killed a bunch of doods and I think they stopped spawning now.

    yay!
     
  4. Essence

    Essence Will Mod for Digglebucks

    All of that is intended behavio(u)r. When you steal from a shop, you cause DL-wide Dre(a)d Collector spawnage and piss off every Brax on the floor. Furthermore, you can walk into later shops with your stolen goods, but when you try to walk out again without paying (again), you re-aggro all of the Braxs and Collectors spawn again. If you can remember what you stole, you can just put it down before you walk into any further shops, but it can require careful note-taking.
     
  5. Do all your "shopping" (a Dredmor word that means "casing the joint") naked.
     
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  6. Shadowplay

    Shadowplay Member

    Well thats wierd because I stole the crown star addendum to wear it. I went into 4 shops later on (3 on DL 14 and 1 on DL 15) while wearing the necklace and they didnt care. While on DL 13 where I stole the Addendum, the Braxes seemed like they came out for me even before I entered their shops though.
     
  7. Essence

    Essence Will Mod for Digglebucks

    Huh. I wonder what's different. I've positively had games where I stole stuff on one floor and it triggered the 'you thief!' when I walked out of a store on the next floor down.
     
  8. Shadowplay

    Shadowplay Member

    I did get that once actually but only after I killed all the braxes, left the floor, came back, entered the last shop and stole everything there as well. When I left that shop I got the message even though brax was already dead and no collectors spawned.

    Edit: I have the savegame if you want it but it was after I killed Dredmor so Im not sure it would work.
     
  9. Glazed

    Glazed Member

    That's never happened to me. I've always been safe after changing floors. I started plaing in 1.09 RevB.

    I think you added an extra zero to both numbers. The Crownstar's base price is only 1,000,000, so it's 2.43M in Going Rogue. You probably had 400,000.