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Prisioner Labor! A.K.A. Gulags

Discussion in 'Clockwork Empires General' started by Humbert Cumberdale, May 19, 2014.

  1. I am not sure if this has been posted already (but I saw a similar thread on slavery) so I am sorry if this has already been commented.

    Will we be able to put our vile filth in a prision camp and make them work? ( dangerous jobs, like mining, Eldritch horrors scavation and so on...) They would be a cheap labor, but really sad and angry people, who might get acess to dynamite and might explode the guards. Will this be done somehow? I know there is some moral implications though, and I hope this don't offend anyone.
     
  2. Daynab

    Daynab Community Moderator Staff Member

    I don't think that's going to happen.
     
  3. Nicholas

    Nicholas Technology Director Staff Member

    By definition, aren't the entire low classes vile filth? It's all a matter of perspective, you know.
     
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  4. EleSigma

    EleSigma Member

    Aren't prisons going to be in the game though? (Not forced labor, just prisons) That and insane asylums?
     
  5. Haldurson

    Haldurson Member

    Which brings up the question... how many criminals does it take before it becomes necessary to build a prison and not just hang them? And how many crazy people does it require before you decide not to simply assume you are dealing with a poet, and have to put them in prison (I mean an asylum).
     
  6. EleSigma

    EleSigma Member

    It will probably be like Dwarf Fortress where you build prison cells and crazy rooms to tie up criminals and insane since outright executing them will upset any friends and relatives and might cause a chain reaction. Though from what I understand from reading many a CE articles and forum posts, chain reactions can happen but it's not as unstable as it is in DF where one dwarf's sudden death can cause the entire colony to spontaneously go from perfect happiness and into a cannibalistic bloodbath.
     
  7. Haldurson

    Haldurson Member

    Why wouldn't it be more like a real frontier town? We're talking about people, in an alternate kind of history, not dwarves. I don't know how dwarven civilization works, but we have some clues as to how humans deal with these kinds of problems. I honestly think that history is a better model of how things work as far as crime and punishment for this game, than Dwarf Fortress.
     
  8. Gallows all the way
     
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  9. Stuthulhu

    Stuthulhu Member

    Copious alcoholism. Monsters? Ale. Tough day in the mine? Ale. Buddy drowned in a vat of ale? Ale. From a different vat if feasible.
     
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  10. EleSigma

    EleSigma Member

    Someone dies? Ale. Mysterious Mood? You better have the items they want in stock.
     
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  11. Kaidelong

    Kaidelong Member

    I don't know about prisons in the colonies. Part of the point of the colonies in the first place was to have a place to dump prisoners so that they didn't stay in prisons! So it is kind of a prison to begin with.
     
  12. Haldurson

    Haldurson Member

    Ah, I get it. All colonists are prisoners, and the entire colony IS the Gulag. That said, even prisoners require punishment at some point.
     
  13. Xyvik

    Xyvik Member

    You don't think being subjected to Constant Terrors, fishpersons, and untold horrors from beyond counts as punishment? :p
     
  14. Haldurson

    Haldurson Member

    Sorry, no. That's everyday life. You need actual incentives against crime, both petty and otherwise.
     
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  15. Wolg

    Wolg Member

    That would be the people in red coats with guns.

    Unless they are the ones conducting the crime...
     
  16. Daniel

    Daniel CEO Staff Member

    I approve of the direction of this thread.
     
  17. Can't you just order your Army members to shoot the scum that just made off into the woods with one of your fine liquor bottles? I am not for executing people, but there should be some kind of "Toggle-to-mark-as-target" Button for all sick psychos out there. Like me! MOHAHA!

    Me: "I think I might be a psychopath..."

    My Sister: "How come?

    Me: "You know how killing people in video games is EXTREMLY fun?"

    My Sister: "Yes?"

    Me: "Yeah. That."
     
  18. Nicholas

    Nicholas Technology Director Staff Member

    That would be the "frontier justice" button.