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Greaves

Discussion in 'Dungeons of Dredmor General' started by Wi§p, Jan 8, 2012.

  1. Wi§p

    Wi§p Member

    Am I the only one that notices that greaves usually protect the legs, and not the feet, so shouldn't go in the boots slot? I just don't see why they are classed as boots, maybe there is some reference I don't get.
     
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  2. Null

    Null Will Mod for Digglebucks

    They were boots because at the time they were made the legs slot didn't exist.
     
  3. Wi§p

    Wi§p Member

    Well.. can't they be changed to leggings, now that there is a legs/ pants slot? (with the stats changed to be balanced for pants ofcourse)
     
  4. Null

    Null Will Mod for Digglebucks

    I guess it could give more pure armor slots for warriors with boots and greaves, but would overall lower the amount of boots for warriors.
     
  5. DavidB1111

    DavidB1111 Member

    Well, they'd still have rocket boots and their 4 AA. :) No real need to balance it for placing it in the pants slot, there's already pretty powerful and rare pants. :) Make it like the iron plated belts, give it the stats the boots have. That's what, 2 for steel armor greaves? (As a side note, Firefox doesn't recognize greaves..)
     
  6. Wi§p

    Wi§p Member

    Maybe.. besides, as far as I am aware there are no craftable pants in the smithing tree (or there aren't that many..), and this would help make up for it.
     
  7. Tycho

    Tycho Member

    Honestly, the greaves I have seen IRL are more "boots" than "leggings" or "pants" in nature. They guard the calf, shin, and kneecap and leave most of the foot exposed. Example
     
  8. Wi§p

    Wi§p Member

    Those do seem a bit high though.. and I don't think you could wear pants over those, and could probably wear shoes or boots on your feet still, right?
     
  9. Tycho

    Tycho Member

    Pants OVER? probably not. Pants UNDER? Maybe. Also cutoffs. And flippy floppies and gladiator sandals, maybe, but beyond that... don't think so.
     
  10. Kazeto

    Kazeto Member

    Yeah, greaves are much more similar to boots than to pants, as they are, in essence, shin protectors that reach to knees, and are kind of like knee-high boots without sole covering.
     
  11. Wi§p

    Wi§p Member

    Well.. would pants even increase your defense under a metal plate? And boots are probably impractical as well unless they were tailored for you.. but it makes more sense to me at least that Greave would be go in the pants slot, whether they are pants or not is besides the point; if the only reason would be to keep consistency with other series, like TES, so I say Greaves are pants. Besides, you could just cut the top part off of the boots and everything would be fine right? ^^
     
  12. Kazeto

    Kazeto Member

    It depends on interpretation, so if you think that greaves should go to the pants slot, there's nothing stopping you from changing that and posting it as a mod. If that'll work, I think the developers might take to that idea and implement this change.
    Personally I don't care about greaves that much (in my play-throughs) as I am mostly playing rogue and mixed characters, and thus prefer light armour over heavier stuff, but you do have a point about that issue.
     
  13. Tycho

    Tycho Member

    wait, we're playing a game where traffic cones are used as helmets, Dutch wooden sabot-style clogs don't made you louder than a Mardi Gras parade, axes that are also keytars are awesome weapons and a squid is as powerful as a 57mm rocket barrage when fired from a crossbow.

    You're worried about "impractical"?
     
  14. Wi§p

    Wi§p Member

    Strange thing is, I meant wearing boots with Greaves would be "impractical", wearing pants with Greaves would just be weird.. I mean, it is an awkward piece of gear. If Dredmor (and their creators) want the hero wearing two layers of shins (up to above the thighs), and no shoes I am not one to disagree. I just meant they are more pant like, then they are boot like.. thus should be in the pants slot. But you are right Kazeto, they are minor gear, and it doesn't really matter much since you'll probably replace them by the third floor anyways. I wouldn't create a mod anyways, even if it was something important.. but certainly not just to change Greaves into the pant slot..