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Strange occurrences on this playthru

Discussion in 'Dungeons of Dredmor General' started by DragonDai, Jun 6, 2012.

  1. DragonDai

    DragonDai Member

    So I have been playing DoD since release and love the game...played many, many, times...died many, many times...not the best, but I have downed Dred on DMPD. :)

    Anyway, started up a new character after installing TMNtM (yes, I also have RotDG installed and have used it before) and started noticing strange things. I was wondering if these are just random events I have never had before, or if maybe this is something new introduced by the mod. Basically, I am missing rooms/features that I usually find at least 1 of (and usually more than 1 of) on every floor. Floor 1 had only 1 shop, and it was behind a breakable wall. Floor 2 had no shops or lutefisk shrines at all. Floor 3 had no Inconsequentia shrines all. I have just started level 4, so no idea what lies below...

    But yeah, every single other game I have ever played (and like I said, it's been a lot 100+) I have seen at least 1 shop, lutefisk shrine, and Inconsequentia shrine on every single level..

    So is this just the random dungeon generator giving me a crazy dungeon finally, or is this something new? Anyone else have dungeons like this?
     
  2. LionsDen

    LionsDen Member

    I have had lutfisk statues not appear until dungeon level 3 or 4. I have had levels with no shops on them. No Inconsequentia Shrines hasn't happened to me yet :) . I would say that it's just a bad run with the random number generator.
     
  3. Lorrelian

    Lorrelian Member

    Inconsequentia shrines pop up in several smaller rooms, so they have more chance to spawn than Shops or LFG rooms. Larger rooms = less chance to spawn. Number of doors is involved in this calculation, too.
     
  4. DragonDai

    DragonDai Member

    KK, so it just seems like up until this point I haven't been experiencing ALL Dredmore has to offer me...guess that just means I'll HAVE to go play a few hundred more games...sigh...
     
  5. Null

    Null Will Mod for Digglebucks

    You can download mods! Then you'll have more dredmor than you can ever possibly experience.
     
  6. DragonDai

    DragonDai Member

    I have played with mods before (lots of mods...oooooooh the mods) but I wanted to play a character or two "pure" after the newest xpac for a death or two. Then, once Steam Workshop has had a chance to populate a bit more...MODS ONCE AGAIN!!! Muhuhuhahaha
     
  7. DavidB1111

    DavidB1111 Member

    I have never heard of TMNtM. What is that?
     
  8. SkyMuffin

    SkyMuffin Member

    According to Nicholas, the RNG is now set so that floors average 3 shops each. Although in practice for my own games, I've never seen floors with just 1 or 2 shops. Always 0 or 3. Which is a bit odd if you are calling it an average.
     
  9. Lorrelian

    Lorrelian Member

    I take it you don't play NTTG much Sky Muffin? Cause I usually only see one shop per floor.
     
  10. TheKirkUnited

    TheKirkUnited Member

    If that. On NTTG I've gone several floors without a shop. The RNG can be merciless at times.
     
  11. Karock

    Karock Member

    I don't know about the latest DLC, but in the xml files the MAX shops that can appear were 3. You could change this to a higher number and possibly get more shops. The main problems is that with interior dredmorating there is a higher ratio of rooms to shops (even though he has added in quite a few shops to alleviate the problems some) as well as some truly huge rooms that can spawn making it difficult for the game to fit in shops sometimes. I haven't really had this problem often though, and I never play on NTTG so I can't really comment on that. But, I have had the occasional floor which spawns zero shops.
     
  12. OmniaNigrum

    OmniaNigrum Member

    That is my question too. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Mod? I have no clue.
     
  13. DavidB1111

    DavidB1111 Member

    That would be an awesome mod. :)
     
  14. Karock

    Karock Member

    Maybe it's the abbreviation for what he named the expansion pack...? =P
     
  15. SkyMuffin

    SkyMuffin Member

    That could be it. I only ever do regular, longform Dredmor :p
     
  16. Createx

    Createx Member

    It's no time to grind actually (at least I assume it is...)
    And yeah, lately with Interior Dreadmorating I've experienced quite a lot of no shop there.
    Which bothers me a lot, since I hate leaving stuff around and end up Lutefisking level 4 armor or so :p